A-Z collection of insights, opnions and updates of November 2008 Mumbai attack.

Victim's brother speaks out

Musical tribute- to those who died 26/11

Anger into action: What can India do next?

SRK speak out

People get ready

Tackling terror: India's biggest challenge

Moshe

Unconfident Zardari- Look at the way he is answering to Larry King

Indian Muslims Mumbai attackers criminals - 03 Dec 08

Doodh Ka Doodh; Paani Ka Paani

Wednesday, December 3, 2008

Pakistani dog and Indian dog

Check out this joke a friend sent me!
By Pradyumna Kejriwal and his friend.

The Indians and Pakistanis at the height of the arms race realized that if they continued in the usual manner they were going to blow up the whole world. One day they sat down and decided to settle the whole dispute with one dog fight. They would have five years to breed the best fighting dog in the world and which ever side's dog won would be entitled to dominate the world. The losing side would have to lay down its arms. The Pakistanis found the biggest meanest Doberman and Rottweiler bitches in the world and bred them with the biggest meanest Siberian wolves. They selected only the biggest and strongest puppy from each litter, removed his siblings which gave him all the milk. They used steroids and trainers and after five years came up with the biggest meanest dog the world had ever seen. Its cage needed steel bars that were five inches thick and nobody could get near it. When the day came for the dog fight, the Indians showed up with a strange animal. It was a nine foot long Dachshund. Everyone felt sorry for the Indians because they knew there was no way that this dog could possibly last ten seconds with the Pakistani dog. When the cages were opened up, the Dachshund came out of it's cage and slowly waddled over towards the Pakistani dog. The Pakistani dog snarled and leaped out of it's cage and charged the Indian dachshund. But, when it got close enough to bite the Dachshund's neck, the Dachshund opened it's mouth and consumed the Pakistani dog in one bite. There was nothing left at all of the Pakistani dog. The Pakistanis came up to the Indians shaking their heads in disbelief. "We don't understand how this could have happened. We had our best people working for five years with the meanest Doberman and Rottweiler bitches in the world and the biggest meanest Siberian wolves."

"That's nothing", an Indian replied. "We had our best plastic surgeons working for five years to make an alligator look like a Dachshund."

India’s 9/11? Not Exactly

By AMITAV GHOSH
Published: December 2, 2008
NYTimes.com

SINCE the terrorist assaults began in Mumbai last week, the metaphor of the World Trade Center attacks has been repeatedly invoked. From New Delhi to New York, pundits and TV commentators have insisted that “this is India’s 9/11” and should be treated as such. Nearly every newspaper in India has put “9/11” into its post-massacre headlines. The secretary general of the Bharatiya Janata Party, the leading Hindu nationalist political faction, has not only likened the Mumbai attack to those on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon, but has insisted that “our response must be close to what the American response was.”

There can be no doubt that there are certain clear analogies between the two attacks: in both cases the terrorists were clearly at great pains to single out urban landmarks, especially those that serve as symbolic points of reference in this increasingly interconnected world. There are similarities, too, in the unexpectedness of the attacks, the meticulousness of their planning, their shock value and the utter unpreparedness of the security services. But this is where the similarities end. Not only were the casualties far greater on Sept. 11, 2001, but the shock of the attack was also greatly magnified by having no real precedent in America’s history.

India’s experience of terrorist attacks, on the other hand, far predates 2001. Although this year has been one of the worst in recent history, 1984 was arguably worse still. That year an insurgency in the Punjab culminated in the assassination of Prime Minister Indira Gandhi by her Sikh bodyguards. This in turn led to riots that took the lives of some 2,000 Sikhs.

I was living in Delhi then and I recall vividly the sense of besetting crisis, of extreme fragility, of being pushed to the edge of an abyss: it was the only time I can recall when the very project of the Indian republic seemed to be seriously endangered. Yet for all its horror, the portents of 1984 were by no means fulfilled: in the following years, there was a slow turnaround; the Punjab insurgency gradually quieted down; and although the victims of the massacres may never receive justice in full measure, there has been some judicial retribution.

This has been another terrible year: even before the invasion of Mumbai, several hundred people had been killed and injured in terrorist assaults. Yet the attacks on Jaipur, Ahmedabad, New Delhi, Guwahati and elsewhere did not set off chains of retaliatory violence of the sort that would almost certainly have resulted 10 or 15 years ago. Nor did the violence create a sense of existential crisis for the nation, as in 1984. Thus, despite all loss of life, this year could well be counted as a victory not for terrorism but for India’s citizenry.

The question now is this: Will the November invasion of Mumbai change this? Although there is no way of knowing the answer, it is certain that if the precedent of 9/11 is taken seriously the outcome will be profoundly counterproductive. As a metaphor “9/11” is invested not just with the memory of what happened in Manhattan and at the Pentagon in 2001, but also with the penumbra of emotions that surround the events: the feeling that “the world will never be the same,” the notion that this was “the day the world woke up” and so on. In this sense 9/11 refers not just to the attacks but also to its aftermath, in particular to an utterly misconceived military and judicial response, one that has had disastrous consequences around the world.

When commentators repeat the metaphor of 9/11 they are in effect pushing the Indian government to mount a comparable response. If India takes a hard line modeled on the actions of the Bush administration, the consequences are sure to be equally disastrous. The very power of the 9/11 metaphor blinds us to the possibility that there might be other, more productive analogies for the invasion of Mumbai: one is the Madrid train bombings of March 11, 2004, which led to a comparable number of casualties and created a similar sense of shock and grief.

If 9/11 is a metaphor for one kind of reaction to terrorism, then 11-M (as it is known in Spanish) should serve as shorthand for a different kind of response: one that emphasizes vigilance, patience and careful police work in coordination with neighboring countries. This is exactly the kind of response India needs now, and fortunately this seems to be the course that the government, led by the Congress Party, has decided to follow. Government spokesmen have been at some pains to specify that India does not intend to respond with a troop buildup along the border with Pakistan, as the Bharatiya Janata-led government did after the attack by Muslim extremists on India’s Parliament in 2001.

A buildup would indeed serve no point at all, since this is not the kind of war that can be fought along a border, by conventional armies. The Indian government would do better to focus on an international effort to eliminate the terrorists’ hide-outs and safe houses, some of them deep inside Pakistan. India will also need to cooperate with those in the Pakistani government who have come around to a belated recognition of the dangers of terrorism.

The choice of targets in Mumbai clearly owes something to the September bombing of the Islamabad Marriott, another high-profile site sure to include foreign casualties. Here already there is common ground between the two countries — for if this has been a bad year for India in regard to terrorism, then for Pakistan it has been still worse.

It is clear now that Pakistan’s establishment is so deeply divided that it no longer makes sense to treat it as a single entity. Sometimes a crisis is also an opportunity: this is a moment when India can forge strategic alliances with those sections of the Pakistani government, military and society who understand that they, too, are under fire.

Much will depend, in the coming days, on Mumbai’s reaction to the invasion. That the city was not stricken by turmoil in the immediate aftermath of the attack is undoubtedly a positive sign. That the terrorists concentrated their assault on the most upscale parts of the city had the odd consequence of limiting the disruption in the everyday lives of most Mumbai residents. Chhatrapati Shivaji station, for instance, was open just a few hours after the terrorists there were cleared out. In the northern suburbs, the home of Bollywood’s studios, actors were summoned to rehearsal even while the battles were being fought.

But with each succeeding day, tensions are rising and the natural anxieties of the inhabitants are being played upon. Still, this is not a moment for precipitate action: if India can react with dispassionate but determined resolve, then 2008 may yet be remembered as a moment when the tide turned in a long, long battle. For if there is any one lesson to be learned from the wave of terrorist attacks that has convulsed the globe over the last decade it is this: Defeat or victory is not determined by the success of the strike itself; it is determined by the response.

Amitav Ghosh is the author, most recently, of the novel “Sea of Poppies.”

Calling All Pakistanis

By THOMAS L. FRIEDMAN
Published: December 2, 2008

On Feb. 6, 2006, three Pakistanis died in Peshawar and Lahore during violent street protests against Danish cartoons that had satirized the Prophet Muhammad. More such mass protests followed weeks later. When Pakistanis and other Muslims are willing to take to the streets, even suffer death, to protest an insulting cartoon published in Denmark, is it fair to ask: Who in the Muslim world, who in Pakistan, is ready to take to the streets to protest the mass murders of real people, not cartoon characters, right next door in Mumbai?

After all, if 10 young Indians from a splinter wing of the Hindu nationalist Bharatiya Janata Party traveled by boat to Pakistan, shot up two hotels in Karachi and the central train station, killed at least 173 people, and then, for good measure, murdered the imam and his wife at a Saudi-financed mosque while they were cradling their 2-year-old son — purely because they were Sunni Muslims — where would we be today? The entire Muslim world would be aflame and in the streets.

So what can we expect from Pakistan and the wider Muslim world after Mumbai? India says its interrogation of the surviving terrorist indicates that all 10 men come from the Pakistani port of Karachi, and at least one, if not all 10, were Pakistani nationals.

First of all, it seems to me that the Pakistani government, which is extremely weak to begin with, has been taking this mass murder very seriously, and, for now, no official connection between the terrorists and elements of the Pakistani security services has been uncovered.

At the same time, any reading of the Pakistani English-language press reveals Pakistani voices expressing real anguish and horror over this incident. Take for instance the Inter Press Service news agency article of Nov. 29 from Karachi: “ ‘I feel a great fear that [the Mumbai violence] will adversely affect Pakistan and India relations,’ the prominent Karachi-based feminist poet and writer Attiya Dawood told I.P.S. ‘I can’t say whether Pakistan is involved or not, but whoever is involved, it is not the ordinary people of Pakistan, like myself, or my daughters. We are with our Indian brothers and sisters in their pain and sorrow.’ ”

But while the Pakistani government’s sober response is important, and the sincere expressions of outrage by individual Pakistanis are critical, I am still hoping for more. I am still hoping — just once — for that mass demonstration of “ordinary people” against the Mumbai bombers, not for my sake, not for India’s sake, but for Pakistan’s sake.

Why? Because it takes a village. The best defense against this kind of murderous violence is to limit the pool of recruits, and the only way to do that is for the home society to isolate, condemn and denounce publicly and repeatedly the murderers — and not amplify, ignore, glorify, justify or “explain” their activities.

Sure, better intelligence is important. And, yes, better SWAT teams are critical to defeating the perpetrators quickly before they can do much damage. But at the end of the day, terrorists often are just acting on what they sense the majority really wants but doesn’t dare do or say. That is why the most powerful deterrent to their behavior is when the community as a whole says: “No more. What you have done in murdering defenseless men, women and children has brought shame on us and on you.”

Why should Pakistanis do that? Because you can’t have a healthy society that tolerates in any way its own sons going into a modern city, anywhere, and just murdering everyone in sight — including some 40 other Muslims — in a suicide-murder operation, without even bothering to leave a note. Because the act was their note, and destroying just to destroy was their goal. If you do that with enemies abroad, you will do that with enemies at home and destroy your own society in the process.

“I often make the comparison to Catholics during the pedophile priest scandal,” a Muslim woman friend wrote me. “Those Catholics that left the church or spoke out against the church were not trying to prove to anyone that they are anti-pedophile. Nor were they apologizing for Catholics, or trying to make the point that this is not Catholicism to the non-Catholic world. They spoke out because they wanted to influence the church. They wanted to fix a terrible problem” in their own religious community.

We know from the Danish cartoons affair that Pakistanis and other Muslims know how to mobilize quickly to express their heartfelt feelings, not just as individuals, but as a powerful collective. That is what is needed here.

Because, I repeat, this kind of murderous violence only stops when the village — all the good people in Pakistan, including the community elders and spiritual leaders who want a decent future for their country — declares, as a collective, that those who carry out such murders are shameful unbelievers who will not dance with virgins in heaven but burn in hell. And they do it with the same vehemence with which they denounce Danish cartoons.

Maureen Dowd is off today.

Monday, December 1, 2008

Was NDA tough on terror?

Consider this- this is what Shekhar Gupta has to say about terrorism and politics in india in the last 8 years-

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"...UPA allies consider Muslims their captive voters. So whereas the BJP had tried to paint terrorism as a phenomenon caused and rooted exclusively in Islam, the UPA went to the other extreme: total denial. It also proceeded to repudiate everything that the BJP stood for and had done in government. This included, as one of the UPA's first acts, repealing the very tough Prevention of Terrorism Act (POTA) that the BJP had passed, and under which the surviving conspirators of the Parliament attack had been tried and convicted in a fast-track court. The UPA junked the special law, painting it as anti-Muslim. But this allowed the BJP, under whose reign police had often indeed misused the law to harass Muslims, to accuse the UPA of appeasing Muslims and blame each subsequent terror attack on the government..."

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"...rather than fight terror at its roots, the UPA has used the recent capture of a suspected Hindu terror ring, including an Army lieutenant colonel and a woman preacher, to try to embarrass the BJP. The BJP, for its part, has called the whole thing a fabrication aimed to help the UPA retain Muslim support. Terror has been politicized from both ends. And the result is that India's ability to prevent or fight attacks against its economy, icons and population has been weakened dramatically. The intelligence agencies and police forces feel orphaned, with one side calling them partisan and the other, incompetent..."

FOR FULL ARTICLE: http://www.newsweek.com/id/171320/page/1

'We took Mumbai attack orders from Pakistan'

Reuters

Posted: Dec 01, 2008 at 1641 hrs IST

Mumbai:
Investigators said on Monday the militants who attacked Mumbai had months of commando training in Pakistan, adding to rising tensions between the neighbours as recriminations mounted at home.

The fallout prompted a second top politician from the ruling Congress party to resign, amid growing anger at intelligence failures that many Indians believe allowed 10 Islamist gunmen to kill 183 people and besiege India's financial capital for three bloody days.

The attacks, which struck Mumbai's two best-known luxury hotels and other landmarks in the city of 18 million, are a major setback for improving ties between India and Pakistan.

The White House said US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice would visit India on Wednesday, underscoring the seriousness with which Washington viewed the attacks and the potential threat they had to regional stability.

"I don't want to jump to any conclusions myself on this, but I do think that this is a time for complete, absolute, total transparency and cooperation and that is what we expect (from Pakistan)," Rice told reporters travelling with her to London.

Two senior investigators said on condition of anonymity that evidence from the interrogation of Azam Amir Kasav, the only gunmen of the 10 captured alive, clearly showed that Pakistani militants had a hand in the attack.

The clean-shaven, 21-year-old with fluent English was photographed during the attack wearing a black t-shirt emblazoned with the Versace logo. He has said his team took orders from "their command in Pakistan", police officials said.

PAKISTAN TRAINING

The training was organised by the Lashkar-e-Taiba militant group, and conducted by a former member of the Pakistani army, a police officer close to the interrogation said, on condition of anonymity because he was not authorised to speak.

"They underwent training in several phases, which included training in handling weapons, bomb making, survival strategies, survival in a marine environment and even dietary habits," another senior officer said.

The Pakistani-based Lashkar-e-Taiba made its name fighting Indian rule in Kashmir but was also blamed for an attack on the Indian parliament in 2001 that brought the nuclear-armed neighbours close to war.

Lashkar had had close links to Pakistan's military spy agency in the past, security experts say, although the government in Islamabad insists it too is fighting the group and other Islamist extremists based on its soil.

New Delhi has not accused Islamabad's civilian government of involvement but has expressed deep frustration that its neighbour has been unable or unwilling to prevent militants using its soil to attack Indian cities.

Pakistan President Asif Ali Zardari has appealed to India not to punish his country for last week's attacks, saying militants could precipitate a war, the Financial Times reported on Monday.

"Even if the militants are linked to Lashkar-e-Taiba, who do you think we are fighting?" asked Zardari in an interview with the Financial Times.

Officials in Islamabad have warned any escalation would force it to divert troops to the Indian border and away from a U.S.-led anti-militant campaign on the Afghan frontier.

"It's part of the usual blackmail of the United States that Pakistan does to take more interest in India-Pakistan issues," said B. Raman, a former head of Indian intelligence agency RAW.

"NO ONE ACTED"

The leader of Maharashtra's main fishermen's union says he had tipped off the government four months ago about militants using the sea to land RDX explosives in Mumbai.

"No one acted upon our information," Damodar Tandel said.

A huge consignment of explosives and guns brought ashore in Mumbai in 1993 was used to set off a string of bombs in the city that killed 257 people.

Mumbai residents returned to schools and offices on Monday for the first time since the attacks.

Candlelight vigils were held in New Delhi and at various spots in Mumbai on Sunday, with people holding hands, singing and carrying banners, some in remembrance of victims, others protesting over what they saw as government inaction.

Candles and flowers were also strewn at the bullet-scarred Cafe Leopold and at barricades in front of the Taj and Trident hotels, where the gunmen holed up during the 60-hour siege.

Sunday, November 30, 2008

Pak may redeploy 1 lakh troops along Indian border

ExpressIndia.com

Posted: Nov 30, 2008 at 1440 hrs IST

Islamabad: Warning of mounting tension with India in the wake of the Mumbai terror attacks, Pakistan's security apparatus has said that up to one lakh troops could be redeployed along the border with India after diverting them from fighting militants in the restive Afghan frontier.

The next two days would be crucial in determining how the situation would unfold, senior security officials were quoted as saying by the local media on a background briefing organised for Pakistani journalists on Saturday.

Pakistan would wind up its "war on terror" on the Afghan borders if the situation in the east "spiralled out of control", the officials were quoted as saying by the Dawn newspaper. The top officials categorised the current state of Pakistan-India relations as "tense".

"They (Indians) are taking the escalation level up at a very brisk pace," one official said.

Describing the situation as "crisis-like", the officials said Pakistan would pull out "all the troops" now deployed in the country's northwest if India deployed forces on its border with Pakistan.


There are about 90,000 to 100,000 troops fighting pro-Taliban militants in the tribal belt, the officials said.

India and Pakistan agreed to a ceasefire along the borders in Kashmir in late 2003, allowing Islamabad to divert more troops for quelling a raging Taliban-led insurgency in North West Frontier Province and adjoining tribal areas bordering Afghanistan. The US has described the tribal belt as a safe haven for Taliban and al-Qaeda elements.

If tension escalated with India, the "war on terror won't be our priority", a security official said during the briefing. He said the Pakistani security establishment would not "leave anything" on the Afghan border if troops were diverted to the Indian frontier.

Knee jerk Deshmukh likely to be removed as CM

Deshmukh likely to be removed as CM
NDTV Correspondent
Monday, December 01, 2008 12:23 AM (Mumbai)


After Shivraj Patil, it may be Maharashtra Chief Minister Vilasrao Deshmukh's turn next. Deshmukh, in the line of fire in the wake of the Mumbai terror attacks, is likely to be removed over the next few days.

Sources said no decision had been taken yet on who would replace him, but his exit was likely in the next couple of days.

Sunday was an action-packed day. It began with the Union Home Minister Shivraj Patil resigning and ended with the likelihood of the Maharashtra Chief Minister being replaced. In the middle, there was speculation over the National Security Adviser M K Narayanan having quit, but the PMO was quick to refute that.

Both Patil and Deshmukh came under attack at Saturday's Congress Working Committee meeting and leaders suggested that someone must own responsibility. Deshmukh, however, seemed rather unconcerned on Sunday, when he made his first visit inside a devastated Taj hotel.

He had for company film director Ram Gopal Verma and his son Ritiesh, the film actor. Later, the same group visited the Trident as well.

The Chief Minister was clearly unconcerned about insensitivities or about the impending questions of his survival.

However, sources in Delhi had already said that it was this kind of casual approach, which would see the clock ticking for both Deshmukh and his Deputy Chief Minister R R Patil, who did his own bit to trivialise the tragedy with this casual remark.

Saturday, November 29, 2008

Wake up Mumbai. Fight back. Fight back. Fight back!

By Shobhaa De
November 29, 12:01 pm

My fingers are shaking as I key in this piece, minutes after watching visuals of panic stricken commuters at CST station, running helter skelter as fresh reports of terrorist attacks near the RBI and GT Hospital send a grievously wounded Mumbai reeling once again…to save itself. If these horrific attacks that have struck every Mumbaikar’s heart do not act as a serious wake up call, nothing else can or will.
The most important lesson to learn from the carnage is that the time has come for citizens to take control of their lives and their beloved city, for if they don’t, they will be dead.What the past 70 hours have demonstrated unambiguously is that our city fathers have learned nothing from past blows in our gut, or else innocents would not have lost their lives because there was no one in charge when the city most needed a figure, capable of leading from the front.
The chief minister showed up outside the Trident, when the crisis was nearly over. Delhi politicians caused more of a nuisance than anything else when the prime minister, along with Sonia Gandhi made the mandatory hospital visits…diverted traffic and police attention.But it took a Narendra Modi to show us what political opportunism is all about when he arrogantly arrived here with bags of money to distribute to the families of Mumbai’s real heroes – the slain policemen, and wasted no time in capitalizing on the tragedy to cold bloodedly push his own agenda.

There were several shocking failures and lapses…But what good is a post- mortem, after the damage is done? What good, delayed responses – we could have, we should have, why didn’t so-and-so do this or that? The truth is, we effed up. Each and every one of us. Let us not point fingers and play the blame game, for it is dangerous and unproductive. We were caught off guard – once again. This time there is no excuse. How many attacks is it going to take for Mumbai to act and save itself?
And where should we begin? I would say let us start from taking a few key lessons from America, post 9/11. The entire country acted as one. Political differences were set aside and a superbly strategized counter-terrorism plan put into place.There have been no further attacks since then. Next, we need to pay attention to the immediate requirements of our over- burdened police force – those poor constables armed with nothing more lethal than laathis can ‘t chase a rabid dog, forget about taking on hard core, armed terrorists.Give them equipment, training and autonomy to act in such an emergency without waiting for bureaucratic clearances, then see the difference. We need an action plan to deal with crises. Citizens need to be taken into confidence with a disaster management strategy, and regular drills to keep people alert.What became evident( and cost countless lives) was the absence of leadership.
With whom did the buck stop?
Who was in charge of taking key and timely decisions?
Was there anyone at all who was monitoring and co ordinating collective efforts to deal with each ghastly development? Individual stories of heroism are not enough in such situations – they create martyrs, nothing else. We lost outstanding officers, who misread the threat to their own lives and were not adequately protected. Our police lack basic gear – helmets, bullet proof jackets, riot shields. We expect them to protect us while they themselves are unprotected. Lack of funds is a poor excuse. Take a look at any minor politico moving around with a convoy of police cars, security personnel, ambulances. These privileges must be instantly withdrawn and reserved exclusively for top ranking politicians alone.Help in the form of crack commando units, the Marcos, NSG and the Army, arrived several hours after Operation Mumbai was underway. Naval helicopters were deployed still later. Securing a city like Mumbai is not an easy job. But it is possible . Something simple like neighbourhood sirens to alert citizens of an impending attack, are not that difficult to install. This IS war – make no mistake about that. Mumbai is hemorraging…bleeding a slow death Political tourniquets can’t save us. If we have to save ourselves, we need to perform radical surgery…amputate a few gangrenous limbs. And rely on the mighty heart of this great metropolis – the extraordinary people of Mumbai. But this time I am not going to be a sentimental fool and say, ‘Salaam Mumbai’. It’s time to shout, to holler, “Wake up Mumbai. Fight back. Fight back. Fight back!”

Lessons Learnt?

By Balvinder Singh
On Shobhaa De blog

Don't Bounce Back to normalcy please.In the Army, after every battle or even after simulation of a battle, a session is held that is called "Lessons Learnt". The aim of the exercise is to do an introspection on the operation and bring out the weaknesses that led to the situation and also to correct the mistakes done during the operation itself. Our country has come out victorious out of a battle today. Before slipping into congratulatory mood for too long, we have to get into the "Lessons Learnt" mode first. Let me enumerate a few of the lessons which i think we should have learnt out of this exercise which has certainly given us a bloody nose.

1. Instead of fuming at foreign hand involved in the terrorist operations we should concentrate on strengthening our security mechanism. The nature has given defence system to every object. An insect has its sting which it activates when in danger. The beautiful rose has thorns. Even birds are careful enough and look around ten times for any danger before approaching a food item that has been laid out for them to eat. As far as the human being is concerned, his security system goes right back to the stone or the cave age. He would in addition to having arms and ammunition for his safety, invariably keep a big boulder on the door of the cave to prevent any wild animal from entering and eating up his family.

2.We have our intelligence agencies, our boarder security, our coast guards and other para military forces who are responsible for keeping an eye on our land and maritime boarders in the peace time. Smugglers cross the boarders of our country with impunity, carrying drugs and other contra bands, after bribing the forces which are meant to keep a check on them. So if contra bands can be smuggled , then why not arms and explosives.

3. Further, our police and security system bows to the VIP culture that we have in our country. Flaunting the beacon lights on the car and a group of security or protocol personnel walking behind a VIP has become status symbol rather than necessity .

4. More than half the strength of the police force of a city is busy looking after the security of the VIPs instead of taking care of the same for the common citizen.

5. At the five star hotel gate, a guest will feel insulted if the tall durwan with turban and moustaches does not salute him/her and more so if a security fellow asks for searching the body and the baggage of the guest.

6. At the air ports the VIPs throw tantrums if subjected to security checks.

7. Even a common citizen cares a hoot if he/she notices an unattended object or a suspicious person loitering around.

8. Whenever a security gadget is installed at an office or a public place, the first reaction of the common man is how to by pass the same.

9. Mobile SIM cards are distributed by the service providers without much verification of antecedents of the customer.

10. The land lords don't bother to verify the correct particulars of the tenants. Same goes when contract employees are recruited by companies without getting any police verification done for them.

11. And last but not the least our vote and note hungry politicians are busy washing their dirty linen in public instead of concentrating at real issues staring in face of the country's security.And I will hate to read the headlines in the papers tomorrow that Mumbai bounces back to normalcy. Normalcy in our country will mean all that I have mentioned above. We have to deal with times abnormally. Our country is on the path of unprecedented economic progress and that is not liked by every one around us in the world. So please, please tread cautiously. And don't be in a hurry to bounce back to normalcy.

Pakistani civilians are innocent

By Ojas Purandare
16 Hours Ago on Facebook.

I would not blame the civilians of Pakistan. They are probably just a replica of any other society. Look at the Pakistani junta, they blame Americans for this. Of course I'm sure they would understand it is not the whole of America that needs to blamed but a few minds that orchestrate this. Similarly there are a group of people in Pakistan, and specifically they are Pakistani nationals.The point made earlier was true that more than Kashmir, these Pakistani groups cannot bear the economic prosperity in India. Another thing, Pakistan itself has always had an identity crisis. It claims to be a democracy, but it has never been. Both sides of the border, the politicians are the biggest terrorists than those youngsters who fired aimlessly in Mumbai.
Few points*
  • I would ask my Pakistani contemporaries, India and Pakistan are normally terror prone nations, but why is that the west and all other nations find India safer than Pakistan?*
  • Why is that cricket teams more or less always refuse to tour Pakistan, but on most of the time readily tour India?*
  • Why is that after repeated hardcore evidences sent to Pakistan that Dawood Ibrahim stays in Karachi, Pakistan is not ready to cooperate? Why can't it sign an extradition treaty with India?

Pakistan just claims to cooperate, but has never done that.Pakistan more or less has never had a national goal of prosperity, With all the levels of corruption in India, India is where it is , Pakistan is unfortunately no where. Your politicians are your real enemies not India. Your army is one of those who never follow international protocols of war, rape innocent women brutally torture captives. India has always gracefully captured and sent all the captives back to you time and again from the Wagah Border.The whole world knows where the terrorist camps are , but neither the govt of Pakistan is doing anything neither they are letting anyone else do it. The people of Pakistan may argue that Indians dnt like us and hence all these accusations, but unfortunately the whole world equates Pakistan with terror. Who all are you going to silence? The youth of Pakistan is an answer to this, I still believe this generation needs to take over Pakistan and make it prove itself as a nation. Otherwise the day is not far away that Pakistan too will be declared as a terrorist state.My comments are based on my own views, to all the Pakistani nationals, I lost a dear friend in the blast. Today I hate the Pak military, their politicians. but I do not hate the people.

Kasab killed Karkare, Salaskar and Kamte: Mumbai police

29 Nov 2008, 1946 hrs IST, PTI
Source: Times Of India

MUMBAI: Mohammad Ajmal Mohammad Amin Kasab, the only terrorist to have been arrested in connection with the three-day terror attack, shot dead
Anti-Terrorism Squad (ATS) chief Hemant Karkare, Mumbai police sources said here on Saturday. They said Kasab, a Pakistani national who was remanded to police custody till December 11, also killed encounter specialist Vijay Salaskar and Additional Commissioner of Police Ashok Kamte. The sources said ten terrorists had arrived in the city for the first time on the night of Wednesday using the sea route and then dispersed in pairs to the targeted locations. The terrorists allegedly took taxis to their assigned locations and paid in Indian currency. "Each terrorist was carrying Rs 6,200 with them," a senior police official said. Kasab was arrested on the night of Wednesday after his partner, whose identity is stated to be Ismail Khan, was shot dead by the police at Girgaum Chowpatty locality in south Mumbai. Kasab and his partner had first opened fire at CST railway station and then proceeded to Cama hospital and G T Hospital, a senior police official said. Kasab has allegedly revealed that their plan was to take hostages at the Taj hotel, Oberoi Hotel and Nariman House and then use them to escape from the city, he added. He said the Indian financial capital was chosen keeping in mind the worldwide impact it would have. According to a Mumbai crime branch official, the ten terrorists had not come to Mumbai before this to conduct any 'recce' and they had learnt about the locations with the help of Google Earth. The police are still verifying as to how the blast in suburban Vile Parle and Dockyard Road in south Mumbai was executed and if the terrorist had received help from any local group.

Friday, November 28, 2008

What They Hate About Mumbai

By SUKETU MEHTA
Published: November 29, 2008

MY bleeding city. My poor great bleeding heart of a city. Why do they go after Mumbai? There’s something about this island-state that appalls religious extremists, Hindus and Muslims alike. Perhaps because Mumbai stands for lucre, profane dreams and an indiscriminate openness.
Mumbai is all about dhandha, or transaction. From the street food vendor squatting on a sidewalk, fiercely guarding his little business, to the tycoons and their dreams of acquiring Hollywood, this city understands money and has no guilt about the getting and spending of it. I once asked a Muslim man living in a shack without indoor plumbing what kept him in the city. “Mumbai is a golden songbird,” he said. It flies quick and sly, and you’ll have to work hard to catch it, but if you do, a fabulous fortune will open up for you. The executives who congregated in the Taj Mahal hotel were chasing this golden songbird. The terrorists want to kill the songbird.

Just as cinema is a mass dream of the audience, Mumbai is a mass dream of the peoples of South Asia. Bollywood movies are the most popular form of entertainment across the subcontinent. Through them, every Pakistani and Bangladeshi is familiar with the wedding-cake architecture of the Taj and the arc of the Gateway of India, symbols of the city that gives the industry its name. It is no wonder that one of the first things the Taliban did upon entering Kabul was to shut down the Bollywood video rental stores. The Taliban also banned, wouldn’t you know it, the keeping of songbirds.
Bollywood dream-makers are shaken. “I am ashamed to say this,” Amitabh Bachchan, superstar of a hundred action movies, wrote on his blog. “As the events of the terror attack unfolded in front of me, I did something for the first time and one that I had hoped never ever to be in a situation to do. Before retiring for the night, I pulled out my licensed .32 revolver, loaded it and put it under my pillow.”

Mumbai is a “soft target,” the terrorism analysts say. Anybody can walk into the hotels, the hospitals, the train stations, and start spraying with a machine gun. Where are the metal detectors, the random bag checks? In Mumbai, it’s impossible to control the crowd. In other cities, if there’s an explosion, people run away from it. In Mumbai, people run toward it — to help. Greater Mumbai takes in a million new residents a year. This is the problem, say the nativists. The city is just too hospitable. You let them in, and they break your heart.
In the Bombay I grew up in, your religion was a personal eccentricity, like a hairstyle. In my school, you were denominated by which cricketer or Bollywood star you worshiped, not which prophet. In today’s Mumbai, things have changed. Hindu and Muslim demagogues want the mobs to come out again in the streets, and slaughter one another in the name of God. They want India and Pakistan to go to war. They want Indian Muslims to be expelled. They want India to get out of Kashmir. They want mosques torn down. They want temples bombed.

And now it looks as if the latest terrorists were our neighbors, young men dressed not in Afghan tunics but in blue jeans and designer T-shirts. Being South Asian, they would have grown up watching the painted lady that is Mumbai in the movies: a city of flashy cars and flashier women. A pleasure-loving city, a sensual city. Everything that preachers of every religion thunder against. It is, as a monk of the pacifist Jain religion explained to me, “paap-ni-bhoomi”: the sinful land.

In 1993, Hindu mobs burned people alive in the streets — for the crime of being Muslim in Mumbai. Now these young Muslim men murdered people in front of their families — for the crime of visiting Mumbai. They attacked the luxury businessmen’s hotels. They attacked the open-air Cafe Leopold, where backpackers of the world refresh themselves with cheap beer out of three-foot-high towers before heading out into India. Their drunken revelry, their shameless flirting, must have offended the righteous believers in the jihad. They attacked the train station everyone calls V.T., the terminus for runaways and dreamers from all across India. And in the attack on the Chabad house, for the first time ever, it became dangerous to be Jewish in India.
The terrorists’ message was clear: Stay away from Mumbai or you will get killed. Cricket matches with visiting English and Australian teams have been shelved. Japanese and Western companies have closed their Mumbai offices and prohibited their employees from visiting the city. Tour groups are canceling long-planned trips.

But the best answer to the terrorists is to dream bigger, make even more money, and visit Mumbai more than ever. Dream of making a good home for all Mumbaikars, not just the denizens of $500-a-night hotel rooms. Dream not just of Bollywood stars like Aishwarya Rai or Shah Rukh Khan, but of clean running water, humane mass transit, better toilets, a responsive government. Make a killing not in God’s name but in the stock market, and then turn up the forbidden music and dance; work hard and party harder.
If the rest of the world wants to help, it should run toward the explosion. It should fly to Mumbai, and spend money. Where else are you going to be safe? New York? London? Madrid?

So I’m booking flights to Mumbai. I’m going to go get a beer at the Leopold, stroll over to the Taj for samosas at the Sea Lounge, and watch a Bollywood movie at the Metro. Stimulus doesn’t have to be just economic.
Suketu Mehta, a professor of journalism at New York University, is the author of “Maximum City: Bombay Lost and Found.”

Allah Ho

By SUYASHH GUPTA
Published: November 28, 2008

As many (if not even more than) 150 innocent civilians and anti-terrorist commandos were massacred by Islamic terrorist thugs and yet: NO MUSLIM OUTRAGE! NONE!
Here are the following reactions from many Muslims:
1) "We condemn these attacks, but you must note the major discrimination against Muslims by Hindus".

2) "We condemn these attacks, but you must note the warming relations between the Great Satan (USA) and the Little Satan (The Zionist Entity - aka Israel)."

3) "We condemn these attacks. The Zionists and their CIA friends were responsible."
4) "Allah Akbar! We have killed many infidels. ALLAH AKBAR! I will be very happy to be with my camel and goat in bed today, Inshallah. ALLAH AKBAR!"

Allah: Peace Be Upon Him? Are you sure dude?

By SUYASHH GUPTA
Published: November 29, 2008

People often say that terrorists have no religion. Islam and Terrorism are not synonymous. Well that is actually true. But consider this-

  1. Muslims have killed more than 100 million Hindus since they first began their jihad against India, in the 660s AD.
  2. Islamic clerics and other islamic so called jihadists and other adherents of this political ideology, Islam, have invaded, occupied, massacred, and enslaved more than 1/5 of the world in the past 1400 years! MUSLIMS HAVE KILLED MORE THAN 100 MILLION HINDUS SINCE THE BEGINNING OF THEIR JIHAD AGAINST INDIA! MUSLIMS HAVE KILLED HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF JEWS (in fact, the first non-Arab victims of Muslims were Jews - Mohammad personally beheaded several hundred of them). MUSLIMS HAVE KILLED MILLIONS OF CHRISTIANS AND TAKEN COUNTLESS OTHERS INTO SLAVERY!
  3. Even now, when it is OBVIOUS that where ever there are Muslims, there is Islamic fundamentalism/ terrorism (America, Israel, India, Serbia, Britain, Australia, The Philippines, Sudan, Armenia, Greece, Holland, France, Denmark, Macedonia, Montenegro, Russia, and the list goes on...), we never hear Muslims condemn these acts. We never hear them whine and cry about them. We never them riot or protest against those cowardly jihadi acts.
  4. When America, Israel, India, Serbia, Russia, Australia, Britain, and other non-Muslim countries dare to defend themselves in any way, you start riots and protests; these Islamic fundamentalists start accusing these nations of "racism", "bigotry", "intolerance", "hatred", and God knows what else; they start whining and crying to the UN and leftist Western media; and doing everything you can to get the world on their support.
  5. They kill our women and children and then we kill those of who are responsible. But then we are termed as "imperialists","racists", "bigots" and "Islamophobes"! Yes, Islam followers are victims of "discrimination" and "bigotry"; but not innocent helpless women and children of Afghanistan who are deprived of their basic liberty of that of right to education even when we are in 21st century.
  6. This "peaceful" "religion" is constantly being "discriminated" against so much that the leaders of virtually all non-Muslim countries still let them immigrate to them, call Islam a "religion of peace", and bend over backwards for its followers, while they try to impose their "peaceful" "religion" on everyone. And by the way, just so everyone knows how "peaceful" Islam is and just how this so-called "discrimination" against Muslims relates to the latest attacks against my Mumbai, let me quote the holy book of Islam, the Koran:
  • Koran 8:7 “Allah wished to confirm the truth by His words: ‘Wipe the infidels [non-Muslims] out to the last.’”
  • Koran 8:39 “So, fight them till all opposition ends and the only religion is Islam.”
  • Koran 8:59 “The infidels should not think that they can get away from us. Prepare against them whatever arms and weaponry you can muster so that you may terrorize them. They are your enemy and Allah’s enemy.”
  • Koran 8:60 “Prepare against them [non-Muslims] whatever arms and cavalry you can muster that you may strike terror in the enemies of Allah [non-Muslims], and others besides them not known to you. Whatever you spend in Allah’s Cause will be repaid in full, and no wrong will be done to you.”
  • Koran 9:5 “When the sacred forbidden months for fighting are past, fight and kill disbelievers [non-Muslims] wherever you find them, take them captive, beleaguer them, and lie in wait and ambush them using every stratagem of war”"The unbelievers [non-Muslims] are your inveterate foe."
  • Koran: 4:101 ,Koran: 33.27:And He made you heirs to their land and their dwellings and their property, and (to) a land which you have not yet trodden, and Allah has power over all things.
  • Koran: 47.4: So when you meet in battle those who disbelieve, then smite the necks until when you have overcome them, then make (them) prisoners, and afterwards either set them free as a favor or let them ransom (themselves) until the war terminates. That (shall be so); and if Allah had pleased He would certainly have exacted what is due from them, but that He may try some of you by means of others; and (as for) those who are slain in the way of Allah, He will by no means allow their deeds to perish.
  • Koran 21:44: Do they see Us advancing, gradually reducing the land (in their control), curtailing its borders on all sides? It is they who will be overcome.
  • Koran: 47.35: And be not slack so as to cry for peace and you have the upper hand, and Allah is with you, and He will not bring your deeds to naught. "Muslims, do not make friends with any but your own people."
  • Koran: 5:51:"It is not fitting for a Prophet that he should have prisoners of war until he has made a great slaughter in the land."
  • Koran 8:67,Koran 5:51 “Believers [Muslims], take not Jews and Christians for your friends. They are but friends and protectors to each other.”
  • Koran 74:31 “We have appointed nineteen angels to be the wardens of the Hell Fire. We made a stumbling-block for those who disbelieve [non-Muslims] and We have fixed their number as a trial for unbelievers in order that the People of the Book [Jews and Christians] may arrive with certainty, and that no doubts may be left for the People of the Book, those in whose hearts is a disease.”
  • Koran 88:1: “Has the narration reached you of the overwhelming (calamity)? Some faces (Jews and Christians) that Day, will be humiliated, downcast, scorched by the burning fire, while they are made to drink from a boiling hot spring.”
  • Koran 9:29 “Fight those who do not believe in Allah or the Last Day, who do not forbid that which has been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, or acknowledge the Religion of Truth (Islam), (even if they are) People of the Book (Christians and Jews), until they pay the Jizyah tribute tax in submission, feeling themselves subdued and brought low.”
  • [Another translation says:] “pay the tax in acknowledgment of our superiority and their state of subjection.”

Why Mumbai???

By SUYASHH GUPTA
Published: November 29, 2008

The Only reason Pak does this to India time and again is coz it is jealous of our country's progress. India's economy has been booming to great levels. These attacks lead to distrupting the economy.The stock market was closed yesterday!! Mumbai is the financial capital of india, they think if they can destroy Mumbai, they wld be able to take into hands all of India. But, they shld fkin digest the fact that their country CANT, AND WILL NEVER reach the heights India has.

I think Kashmir has never been a issue in their minds.They care a f*** about Kashmir, we should give them Kashmir just as a 'trial' and see if they keep their mouths shut after that. I have a feeling THEY WON'T STILL...jst coz the reason that they cant see India progressing. India and pakistan divided at the same time. Look where India is now and where Pakistan is.

I personally an not pissed at Islam. People should not stereotype a religion based on only a few who create terror and actually belong to the religion.Its not Islam, IT'S PAKISTAN that is the problem for us; problem for the whole world (except for China, because China thrives on such opportunities laid out against India, as India is a potential threat to China economy-wise).
Honestly, IT IS HIGH TIME NOW, PAKISTAN NEEDS TO LEARN A LESSON! they cant fuking mess with our country and stay safe. Im not saying we must wage war against its sovereignty, or go nuke Pakistan. BUT ERADICATE THESE MOTHERFUCKING CUNTMUSCLE TERRORISTS!
They need to be killed and packaged to hell from where they never shall get reincarnated!!! as I am sure even Prophet Muhammad would never forgive them.

My opinion

By SUYASHH GUPTA
Published: November 29, 2008

"An eye for an eye makes the whole world go blind"- Mahatma Gandhi

I abide by this quote.
So I think nuclear warfare or any kind of warfare which costs innocent lives to be lost is not any option to go out against Pakistan.But when I hear this-"Tolerance beyond the virtue of ignorance is cowardice"- (by Unknown to me)
So, I feel that we should act now- 'enough is enough'- as made by Shobhaa De.Only peaceful dialogue is not gonna help to curb cross-border terrorism.It is evident that the terrorists came from Karachi, Sind, in Pakistan.A survivor who came out of Taj safely said that he could hear people talking to someone in Karachi.

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